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no, i agree with you. i was just being facetious

i was assuming no logs policy being a given; without it, the VPN is worthless no matter how good privacy laws are in their jurisdiction.

they’re populists, and their policy is whatever gets them the most votes at the moment.

if you don’t give them any info then their jurisdiction doesn’t really matter. It might mean they’ll get shut down eventually, but it’s easy to move to a different VPN then.

price increase and yet still the cheapest i’ve seen for what they’re offering.

they’re efficient until not doing so majorly inconveniences you specifically

the way it worked originally, pagerank. SEO, will never cease sadly; goodhart’s law n all, but it’s better than what we have now

They are, they’re even indirectly admitting it.

(unlike the leakers, I have permission to post this image)

meaning, management has signed off on this.

they are becoming european google, hence enshittification is upon us.

(unlike the leakers, I have permission to post this image)

ie. management signed off on this, meaning it’s just PR damage control; no one is “breaking the silence”.

without all that data they would be in the negative.

that $220M is pennies compared to what they got from selling that data

tuta or startmail probably

you can look at the privacy policy to see what they store unencrypted. tldr; don’t use if you suspect that governments are after you, but otherwise it’s fine. for governments i think protonmail is still the best option, but if that goes to shit, startmail is a valid alternative.

https://tuta.com/privacy-policy

https://www.startmail.com/privacy

https://proton.me/legal/privacy

here, what the proton CEO is saying does concern the company itself, so it is a warning sign that things may get worse in the future.

this isn’t something i would immediately delete my account over, especially since i still have 2 years of VPN subscription left, and it’s still better than anything google; but i’ll hold off into putting more eggs into their basket, and see how it is after those credits run out.

that’s… mild. and doesn’t really have to do anything with mullvad itself (i am assuming here it was his own money, not mullvad funds). yeah, if people really wanted to boycott because of that then they should doubly boycott proton as well.

currently still using bitwarden but recently there’s been signs that the app might go full closed source in the upcoming years, and then start adding god knows what. i’d keep a backup of your passwords somewhere and be ready to move somewhere else if need be.

https://community.bitwarden.com/t/published-version-update-in-app-stores/102750

proton has good connection that barely cuts out even on the free tier. moreso a problem when websites block you or get cloudflare challenge often, but that’s a problem with all commercial VPNs. i just switch the node then, usually works.

port forwarding on the commercial plan is neat too for me, because i am behind CGNAT.

We are on a privacy forum so i feel the need to say that VPNs are only good for privacy if your ISP is spying on you (or they’re forced to by law enforcement), not much else. IP is a very fragile fingerprinting metric, most people get dynamic IPs as the “default” option. You’re basically trusting a VPN company instead, they have access to the same info as your ISP would without one; Proton has been audited multiple times at least, so there’s more backing to that no log policy than [[insert ISP here]]

atp, if you’re already moving services why not jump to one that guarantees that you will own your media, for free, instead of paying a subscription for something that may actively get worse down the line

capitalism machine prioritizing short term over everything else, working as intended.