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Well I didn’t want to go full Orwellian. But I have thought about it too. Of course the most sinister thing in 1984, where they change history by replacing articles in the newspapers. That would be possible. Because if all you have are some hand scribbled notes or your certain own memory that we were DEFINITELY at war with East Asia, but everyone else knows the truth, they assure you of the truth. That we were always, at war with Eurasia. You’re suddenly that crazy guy.

The vast majority of people have little real memory or grasp of history. Already on X people are asking grok such simple questions.

Now, you might say, well they couldn’t change every copy of information could they? Humans, no. AI, quite probably.

In all seriousness, I’m aware of how far it could go. I just hope there’s enough humanity left in the world that it doesn’t.

But they’re not going to stop you using computers. They’re just going to stop you using YOUR computer. They want you to pay a subscription to use THEIR computer, and to own all your data. So of course they can scan that for even more targeted ads.

This is the endgame the techbros want. And the shitter about this is, we’ll end up paying more in subscription fees than we did buying parts, and to kick us in the teeth, I’d bet that we’ll only get whatever GPU/CPU compute is leftover from their priority corporate/AI contracts.

Oh, I think they knew about the Ireland problem. Since it was pretty much being shouted about, before during and after the vote. I think the governments (and that’s the sad thing, we went through a few during the process itself) in charge took the stance of “Get brexit done, worry about the rest later”.

Which was stupid. But, again I’m going to point at the characters in charge of the governments at the time(s).

Cameron could have really sewn this up had he not flipped the table and ragequit. Sure the usual noisy tory backbenchers and Farage and co would be up in arms. But Cameron should have just followed the referendum to the letter, and tried (because you know we’d need to apply) to move us out of the EU and straight into the EEA. Really, it would have satisfied the terms of the referendum. Would have had minimal impact in real terms. Would have gotten Farage out of the European parliament (the rest of Europe would thank him for that).

I know people that voted to leave. None of them specifically wanted a hard brexit. The vast majority I asked would actually have been fine with EEA membership.

That sounds like… A WITCH-HUNT!

Well, to be blunt, it depends. Would the eventual extermination of the human race cause them to lose money in the short term?

I never said it was. But, I’m also not an investor. I’m just saying the kind of things that scare off investors. And this would be a big one.

It’s more about not spooking investors. If it’s known that your AI is being used to reverse engineer software from well off corporations. They’re going to be a little less likely to invest if 1: They’re connected to any of those corporations 2: They’re concerned about future lawsuits heading their way.

And of course the actual fear of potential lawsuits landing on their door, or being named in lawsuits against people using their AI to do this.

Yes, if you want control over AI you MUST host it yourself in reality.

I would put some money on it either being.

1: Some senior bod didn’t like that they had to learn where one new button was, and threw their toys out of the pram. 2: The macros thing you mentioned. So many of these were done back in the day, VBA code that no-one knew about until they tried to open the sheet in another office package and it exploded.

Good on them I say. I wish people were the focus of government more.

Well this was more or less my point. I said there’s nothing WE can do. The reason being, in the USA a minuscule number of people vote for people not affiliated with the main two parties, and it’s much the same in the UK (albeit with the split of the right recently among two/three parties). People vote one of two ways. It’s the same over and over across western countries. Outside of that, there’s often direct bribery options available anyway.

You could run on providing pure utopia in most places in the west and no-one would even hear you. Because no-one is going to fund a genuine politician. Without funding, you’re not even an also-ran.

No, the paid stooges always win. They will ensure their corporate paymasters are well looked after once they get into power. This is just the way of things. It will take a revolution to fix it, and historically they don’t go so well in the long term either. But, frankly there’s only so far we can go down this road before that happens.

There’s not enough people that can see this going on and having a will to stop it. More than that, there’s just too many stupid people that worked out how to vote. The proof of this, is the absolute lowest common denominator US president right now.

Corporates are a law unto themselves. It’s not a new idea, look at the original robocop movie, and indeed any 1980s dystopian movie. They’re stories about how corporations got too much power and the world went to shit. We’re just seeing the realisation of what those movies foretold.

Sure. Now tell me how often that happens? I never said a government couldn’t stop it. I made it clear that these companies have the governments in their pockets. The government could stop it, but they won’t. They like the money these corporations give them, far more than they like us.

That’s because big businesses are hugely protected in multiple ways.

First of all, if you or even your government opens a case against them, they will have large and talented legal teams capable of shutting down or at the very least delaying indefinitely most cases against them. Second of all, they are usually huge lobbyists for all major parties in most countries they operate in. That is, they are effectively able to buy access to legislation and protection against them. But third, and the final protection is that even if a case is opened against them, even if it has criminal ramifications with jail time, they will use one of the following to ensure those at the top stay safe. 1: You cannot prosecute a company beyond fines. Fines to a rich company just become a new line in their COGS report. 2: If they are pushed to find someone to prosecute, they will find some operational level sacrificial lamb to throw under the bus. “The buck stops here” doesn’t mean at the top. It means at anyone they can sucker into taking the fall.

So, why should they care? What can any of us do about it?

Yep I’m hearing a lot about this and there’s a few Lora nodes on it in my area. So am considering looking into it.