

Andy Yen and Bart Butler gotta go. There’s probably others too. Resign guys. Every minute you dont, Proton digs itself deeper into the hole. Do you care more about the product or your ego?


Andy Yen and Bart Butler gotta go. There’s probably others too. Resign guys. Every minute you dont, Proton digs itself deeper into the hole. Do you care more about the product or your ego?


The GOG that knowingly sent out emails with Nazi symbols in?


Ah ok, still it seems to encompass the issue.


Looks like it could be a good contender, except for the price. $6/month for 30 GB of Mail Storage, 60 GB of Send Storage, 1 Inbox, 15 Email Addresses and 3 Custom Domains isn’t exactly amazing. Especially with options like Mailbox.org and others.


It makes no sense, Proton was just on for a free win and growth, they just had to keep status quo. I dont know who Yen has been speaking to, but he has become a complete nutjob (unless he always was?).


Can they force Yen out in anyway and save the brand?


It appears they fixed it when it was reported as another CVE?


1 good thing coming of it, doesn’t wipe away all the fucking harm AI is causing. If AI never blew up, the world would be better off. It’s introduced a whole host of problems we didnt need, just for the sake of a few people getting richer.


Exact same vein of arguments the AI band make.


Hmm, but multi billion dollar companies all seem to be owned by clowns? I’d say it’s a requirement if anything.


We used to pay clowns for entertainment, now we get it for free.


All AI defenders do is present strawman arguments. It all boils down to “I am lazy” in the ends.


Oh yeah please leave again!!!


Because it’s about money. That’s it.
There’s no money to be made from ethical ones, you need enough people willing to give you the rights to their stuff for free, because you would not be able to give royalties to them all.
We already see how unsustainable it is currently with the grand theft models and are just waiting for the bubble to burst.
AI can fuck off and die, we dont need it.


When we say AI, we generally mean the LLMs. It’s become a marketing term for them.
Obviously, we used neural networks and such ethically for a long time.
The problem isnt those, it’s the mass harvesting of data, the endless copyright breaches, the stealing of peoples work. All to resell it. While ruining the planet environmentally, economically and it has fucked with the way people think.


Ethical from the start you mean? Trained on data with the blessing of the owner?
It’s not about copyright, it’s about control and invading user privacy. If it was ever about copyright then AI companies would have been shutdown before they even got started.


No, it’s literally so he can say he is the founder once and for all.
Mailbox.org!