• Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    This is pure cope from a nation that is a long way behind the rest of the world on EV technology. I’ve done some very long road journeys, 900+ km in a day, and having an EV would likely have added at least an hour to that day, even more if I was towing.

    The reality: “Nobody stops to fuel their vehicle taking gasoline, gets out, rushes as fast as possible, puts as much fuel in the car as possible, and gets back in the car and drives away,” Cutler said.

    This is exactly how I go about my business at a fuel stop. Maybe do a few stretches and check everything on the roof isn’t working it’s way loose, but once the pump clicks off, I’m goneburgers.

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    1 month ago

    All the messaging about fast charging speed is focused on the wrong thing. EV drivers should be able to do the vast majority of their charging at home or at their destination. The messaging should be about getting chargers in more homes, apartment complexes and workplaces. Speed doesn’t matter as much if you’re going to be parked for half the day or overnight. That’s something that gas simply can’t do.

    Fast charging stations should only be necessary for road trips, where you should be taking a break every so often anyways.

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      1 month ago

      The fact that so many people don’t think about this or are unaware shows how well the propaganda worked.

      Here is a car that is by far the easiest car you’ll ever own, the power to run it is the cheapest you’ll ever see, and 99% of your trips will be within one charge/tank meaning you’ll never need to worry about range ever - but the propaganda convinced them all that that’s a deal breaker.

      As an EV owner the road trips we take are the vast minority of driving anymore. When we do there are options.

      • plan out your route and stops. Requires maybe 15 minutes of planning before your trip. You pick a place with food nearby, get out for 30 minutes, stretch, eat your meal, and you are good until the next meal.
      • if you are one of the 80% of households with 2 cars, take the other car for that roadtrip.
      • get a rental car for your trip. (Remembering that a couple hundred for a rental car is vastly cheaper than paying for gas for 10+ years)
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        1 month ago

        I can’t help but feel if EVs were invented first, convincing people to adopt gas cars would be impossible.

        • “You mean I have to take it somewhere and stand outside every time I need energy?”
        • “Why do I have to put all these fluids in it? And why does it need all these filters, brake pads, and maintenance?”
        • “These things are so slow, why would you ever want to drive one?”
        • “What do you mean I can’t turn on the climate control anytime I want? You mean I have to wait for this thing to heat up?!”
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          1 month ago

          EVs still use brake pads. lol

          Also electric cars, gas, and steam has a bit of a format war in the 1890’s-1920’s or so, and people really did make a lot of these points back then. Unreliable and sometimes unsafe chargers (basically due to people not understanding electrical engineering as well as we do now) were a big part of why gasoline won out

          • acosmichippo@lemmy.world
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            1 month ago

            EVs still use brake pads. lol

            not really. almost all EV breaking is regen, unless you drive like shit.

    • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
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      1 month ago

      Speed doesn’t matter as much if you’re going to be parked for half the day or overnight.

      The apartment complex and workplace chargers I’ve seen all limit how long you’re allowed to leave your car parked at them. I suppose speed doesn’t matter in the sense that having to move your car 20 minutes later isn’t much less annoying than having to move it 4 hours later. Still, I wouldn’t want an EV without my own garage even if I never went on road trips. It seems like a pain.

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        1 month ago

        Considering how inexpensive it is to put in a 30A, 50A, or 60A circuit, and how modern L2 chargers can both downrate dynamically and be activated with simple apps or cards, this is not a difficult problem to solve.

        • LincolnsDogFido@lemmy.zip
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          1 month ago

          Considering how inexpensive it is to put in a 30A, 50A, or 60A circuit

          I have a 50A circuit that i just installed. And previously installed a 30A circuit at my last house. It’s not inexpensive. A 50A breaker and 30 feet of 6/2 Romex with ground costs $240. Then add in a 40A capable Grizzl-E Classic for another $299 and you’re on your way to $600.

          If you’re like me, you also buy conduit for the wiring in the garage to keep it dry/protected and a receptacle rather than hardwiring to allow for a little more flexibility.

          Easy, yes. Cheap, no.

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            1 month ago

            Only $600??? That’s cheap as hell! I thought you were going to say $2k at the absolute lowest