Yeah, it’s a legitimately difficult situation trying to balance effective safety measures with the needs of teens and young adults to be able to participate in civil discourse. And I’ll be the first to admit that I do not have a good answer for how to handle this.

Also I’m pretty new around here but so far my experience has been that Lemmy does not strike me as a welcoming place(period) so that likely goes double for anyone with an undercooked prefrontal cortex.

While I believe this is largely correct, it does not support your conclusion.

You are assuming that the participation would need to be to the benefit of the community to be worthwhile. That’s not the case. The party which stands to benefit most is the teen themselves. They may not be able to meaningfully participate in the kinds of discussion examples you have listed, but they could try.

After all, not being an ignorant dumbass is a skill that must be learned, and one that (as evidenced by this thread) many adults never managed to learn for themselves.

I completely agree and think that the proposal in the article really misses the mark.

However, to claim the issue is moot because “15 year olds are not children” (as some have done in this thread) is patently ridiculous. Taking that argument to its logical conclusion exposes its flaws — which was the point of my previous comment.

Cool. So Epstein did nothing wrong. Got it!

The cognitive dissonance in this thread is astounding.

Nonononono! Don’t shutter the conversation. You redirect and up-sale! Don’t say:

Unfortunately we are unable to offer any discounts on our current product line at this time.

Have a great day.

Instead try:

Unfortunately we are unable to offer any discounts on our current product line at this time.

Would you like me to show you some of the models available in our post-consumer-recycled line? Or would you prefer something from our Virgin Silicon line — because there’s nothing like the first time™.

And all because of a small fee for those who get a new batty and chose not to recycle the old one. Like the Aldi quarter of recycling.

I’m voting for the no-leprechauns party! They really know how to get things done.

What in the AI psychosis? This whole thing is bat-shit crazy.

You can’t just be spouting off crazy shit like this online and not citing your sources!

What?

That’s not how any IPO works.

Branding a minority advocacy group as a terrorist organization seems like an excellent way to radicalize its members…

Looks like it’s time to start up some After School Satan Clubs!

Looks like it’s time to start up some After School Satan Clubs!

Well yes, I’m not saying it’s a free lunch. The point is a large up-front investment buys you unlimited tokens in perpetuity for no more than the cost of electricity to power the cluster — which can be surprisingly cheap for UMA machines.

I’ve swapped off API models entirely and have been able to do a lot more useful work since I don’t have to worry about token cost or usage limits. Granted it’s slower per task (less tk/s), but overall much more productive, and private.

Trump’s opulent redesign of the Oval Office has drawn criticism, including from former president Barack Obama, who recently joked that “he’s got the White House looking like Saddam Hussein opened a Cheesecake Factory. Just gold everywhere.”

Obama’s remark prompted a coordinated response from the White House, with treasury secretary Scott Bessent appearing to hit back by dining at a Cheesecake Factory.

This is truly a sad time for comedians everywhere. They have no hope of competing with reality.

Perhaps they run a local model, then tokens are essentially free.

How dare you read the source and form your own opinion!

Shun the nonbeliever!

Not really unique to chatbots. Here’s a couple of entries from the D.O.S. (which is apparently pay walled now? Turns out the top result is a site by a grifter completely unrelated to John Koenig).

Anecdoche

n.

a conversation in which everyone is talking but nobody is listening— instead merely overlaying words like a spoken game of Scrabble, each player borrowing bits of others’ anecdotes to build out their own, until we reach a point when we all run out of things to say.

From anecdote, a short and often amusing account of real-life events + synecdoche, a figure of speech in which a part stands for the whole. Pronounced “uh-nek-doh-kee.”

Anechosis

n.

a state of exhaustion with continually being told what you want to hear, whether by marketers pandering to you or acquaintances afraid of causing offense; the longing for someone to have the heart to finally call you out on your bullshit, challenge your long-held assumptions, and push you to become a better person—which would be a far deeper kindness than trying to live and let live.

From an-, against + echoes. Pronounced “an-uh-koh-sis.”

And we’ve finally come to the point I was trying to make from the beginning. In this particular case it’s Copyright law that is bad.

For example. I have a collection of physical cookbooks that I am in the process of digitizing because I would like to have them in my self hosted Mealie server, and many of them are old and delicate so this is the only way to protect their contents.

Many of these books are rare, no longer in print, and have no digital editions. Now I have a bit more leeway in my case because the recipes themselves are not subject to copyright (only the compilation), but still the only fully legal way for me to digitize these books is to destroy them after I’ve scanned them.

This is a problem with copyright and the commercialization of knowledge in general, not something that is specific to Anthropic or any AI company. So the point is, if you want to rage out at something, make sure your ire is targeted in the correct direction.

In this case that direction should be towards reforming copyright law, and establishing broader adaptation of the copyleft philosophy (which I very much support).

And just to clarify, yes Anthropic destroying a bunch of books is less than ideal, and you can argue that the reason they want them in the first place is dumb or evil as well, but the actual act of destruction is being compelled by US law and applies to anyone in any similar situation.