• Eternal192@anarchist.nexus
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    2 months ago

    Anyone that uses Chrome doesn’t know what a clean non ad infested website looks like so they won’t notice the difference.

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      2 months ago

      Well, you don’t need to be a genius to imagine a concrete site without shit. Chrome users apparently love advertisements, trackers, pop-up windows and other similar things. Well, who are we to disagree?

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          Firefox on Android has gotten quite shit as well. It just refuses to load sometimes and won’t open pages until you copy and paste the url in a new tab. Extremly annoying, especially for online payments.

          E: It’s a known issue for a few months now. Check recent reviews on Google Play if you don’t believe me. Fuck me for complaining about having issues I guess.

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            That sounds like maybe you have something else set as default browser and instead of Firefox and that something is messaging it up.

            I use Firefox exclusively and it works everywhere.

            Unless, URLCheck (highly recommended) is somehow fixing this issue. But I don’t remember having it before either.

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              No, that issue definitely occurs in Firefox Android sometimes. The tab just gets stuck and does nothing. Has been happening for years, in fact, so it’s not something new. Might be due to some specific settings, but I like my settings and the problem doesn’t pop up too often, so eh.

              Desktop Firefox also gets this sometimes, actually. The tab just doesn’t load until I bash ‘enter’ on the address bar, or create a new tab. Since afaik Firefox uses its Gecko engine on both platforms, the issue could be in the engine rather than the UI.

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                2 months ago

                Honestly I didn’t recall anything where things are stuck.

                Are you sure that the issue on Android isn’t caused by closing a link and the app opening Firefox in its context?

                If this is such a percentage issue I’d there big open about it?

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                  It happens within Firefox, without rhyme or reason that I could discern. I think it’s more common if I open a link from another app, then switch away from Firefox while the page loads in the background; or when returning to FF and it tries to reload a previously suspended tab. Firefox is allowed to load stuff on my phone in the background even when battery saving is on (which it always is), but I guess FF might get into a fight with the system over available memory, with the system killing one of FF’s processes/threads. Wouldn’t explain it happening on the desktop, though.

                  If this is such a percentage issue I’d there big open about it?

                  It happens pretty rarely for me, and I have no idea how it could be reproduced. So, I already barely ever open issues (by principle), and certainly won’t report this. Idk about others — wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a bug about this among the many thousands of issues that Mozilla has.

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      Not true. UBlock Origin Lite works just fine. They even recently added the ability to use content scripts so there is almost no difference between it and the original UBlock. Manifest 3 has had and still has some challenges, but you’re being so hyperbolic that I can’t take anything people like you say seriously. Might as well say… “I hate Chrome so much that I’ll make up random lies to prove how bad it is!”

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          2 months ago

          First, I don’t care if they agree with me or not. It is an open source project. They said from they never intended to try to make a 1:1 extension with UBO. They clearly lay out the positives of MV3 as well, and the scripts permission feature is a relatively new addition. You or anyone can contribute or fork it you want to add something.

          I have spent enough time working on MV3 to know Chromium has solved a lot of the challenges. If you want to have a technical discussion about the APIs and differences or how you might do something with MV3, then let’s have the discussion. I never tried to claim MV3 is perfect.

          I just have little patience for essentially non-technical cultists who go around spreading misinformation while acting like they know way more than they do. Prove it then… 99% of people like you never actually want to have a real technical discussion, because you spread your opinions based on feelings and not facts.

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            Prove it then… 99% of people like you never actually want to have a real technical discussion, because you spread your opinions based on feelings and not facts.

            This is extremely funny that you’re trying to insult me, based on your feelings and not facts.

            My only participation in this thread was that UBO Lite creator disagrees with you, which he publicly stated, but you felt… Offended? (No idea) - and decided to insult me rather than to deal with facts.

            There is a word for people like you.

            Troll.

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              This is extremely funny that you’re trying to insult me, based on your feelings and not facts.

              My only participation in this thread was that UBO Lite creator disagrees with you, which he publicly stated, but you felt… Offended? (No idea) - and decided to insult me rather than to deal with facts.

              There is a word for people like you.

              Troll.

              Citing gorhill’s disclaimer that uBOL isn’t a 1:1 clone of uBO doesn’t prove Chrome is “ad-infested”—it conflates advanced power-user filtering with everyday ad blocking. Many limitation were Firefox-exclusive APIs that Chrome MV2 never supported in the first place.

              Under the hood, standard filter lists compile directly into native C++ evaluation via declarativeNetRequest, while cosmetic element hiding and anti-adblock defusers run through the scripting and userScripts APIs. Furthermore, synchronous webRequestBlocking is still built into the Chromium engine for policy installs. Pointing out the architectural reality of how these APIs actually execute isn’t trolling; it’s addressing technical mechanics rather than hyperbole.

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      2 months ago

      Just a crying shame Mozilla has turned into a commercial nightmare making them relatively poor custodians of the only free choice we have left.

      Mozilla needs to die so Firefox can live.

      The income stream from Firefox is plenty for a highly technical, deeply competent, widely dispersed team could work full time on the product using something like OpenCollective.

      Instead what we get is prime SF real estate offices, “competitive” SF salaries and a commercial organisation that seeks weird and increasingly desperate income streams to justify looking like “real company”.

      I want an actual non-profit governing Firefox.

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    2 months ago

    Given how long ago this was announced, anybody still using Chrome doesn’t care.

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        Yeah, pretty much this. In regards to tech, the fediverse often suffers from the average familiarity problem:

        The average user barely even knows how to check their email.

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          My empathy for this view dies on shit that impacts you every single day of your life. At that point it’s not a bit of information you just haven’t needed yet - it’s willful ignorance that I’m not giving you a pass on.

          How long do I need to watch people crap themselves before I’m allowed to demand they learn to use a toilet?

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            Oh, don’t get me wrong. I didn’t mean that you should have empathy. Of course its their own fault for not figuring this shit out, takes 3 minutes to do. In fact, I actively mock people when ever I see them using the internet without a condom. I find thats the easiest way to get them to be interested, any time I have to use someone else machines, I go “hooooly fuck, what is all this shit? Do you have virus or something?! No? What adblocker do you use? YOU DONT?! What the fuck is the matter with you? Install ublock right away, are you insane?!” etc etc. Its quite fun to do.

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      Not really. UBlock Origin Lite works really well. They even added content scripts recently. From a technical perspective MV3 offers more security by default.

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        The following filter options can’t be translated into DNR rules:

        strict1p, strict3p: whether a network request is same-origin as its initiator
        Entity-based values for domain= filter option (webextensions #394)
        redirect-rule=: the DNR API does not support redirect-if-blocked concept (webextensions #493)
        Click-to-load embedded contexts through redirect=click2load.html filter option
        Regex-based removeparam= modifier filter options
        Exceptions for all modifier filter options are not possible
            Workarounds exist for removeparam= and csp= by carefully tuning the priority property.
        Many very useful regex-based filters used in uBO are not allowed, or are rejected by the DNR API (webextensions #344)
        replace=, can't modify the response body (full support is only possible with Firefox MV2)
        ipaddress=, can't use IP address as a condition to block/unblock (full support is only possible with Firefox MV2)
        urlskip=, this requires programmatic steps to extract a URL from another URL (partial support, for strict-blocked pages only)
        

        aside from that it is somewhat better than default ublock but that’s a pretty big list of issues.