An 8-year-old Haitian boy is in federal custody after showing up for a scheduled immigration appointment earlier this week.

The incident was documented on video Wednesday by Karen Pohl, a volunteer immigration court observer with the group Detention Resistance. She said she’s never seen someone that young being detained before.

“It was just — I couldn’t believe what I was seeing because I had never watched a child by himself get detained in that manner,” Pohl said.

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    Easiest way to explain how this is illegitimate (on the part of ICE, just so we’re clear):

    If he was at immigration court, to have a hearing about his immigration situation, why would ICE, the immigration enforcement, arrest him?

    Isn’t their job supposedly to take people with issues before immigration court so those issues can be litigated? Why is ICE also the Judge? What part of the constitution allows law enforcement to act unilaterally and enact punishment?

    In a normal America, what ICE is doing doesn’t make sense. So, they’re illegal secret police and should all be tried for treason.

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      It’s not the first time, unfortunately. ICE has been camping out at immigration court to brutalize anyone they don’t like. They’ve even been targeting the judges:

      A former Wisconsin judge who was convicted of felony obstruction for ushering a Mexican defendant out of her courtroom to evade US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents has been spared prison. - article

      ICE is no different than the Gestapo. Anyone who supports them or works for them now would’ve had a Lee Einfeld pointed in their direction during WW2

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      They’re just a bunch of knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathers, incapable of rational thought, filled with ignorance, bigotry and hatred. They are the product of a Republican world where their mothers couldn’t get the abortions they needed, so instead they were raised in very bad circumstances with a very poor education, probably brought up on religion instead, no real proper guidance or positive influence, probably impoverished, probably by parents who were brought up in similar circumstances, who were also unfit parents to perpetuate the Republican dream - bigoted, uneducated and completely controllable supporters, aka “tools”.

      One thing that I find really interesting here is that most of these people aren’t even white. A high percentage of these ICE agents, especially in the southern border states, have a high rate of being Latino, who follow other Latinos who spew their bigotry, ignorance and hatred towards their own people: Enrique Torrio, Nick Fuentes, etc. To use their own words against them, those don’t sound like very American names.

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        they originally make useful cannon fodder for the police and military, but recently they are too dumb even for the latter.

        its by design they arnt hiring mostly white people, im pretty sure the white people they are hiring is kept out of sight(so white people arnt percieved ICE as a white’s only ) so they get the wrath of the public on them, instead to keep the target on POCs as race traitors instead. i saw a post mentioning this on a sub once.

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      the ones hired, are probably the "unhirables’ we hear about, even for amazon/walmart wouldnt hire these people, and they hire anyone. probably some rapists, pedophiles, DV-ers,etc.

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      Capitalism. The culture we’ve created lacks humanity. Our executives are constantly low balling us. We get screwed so often, we understand the world is cruel and we shouldn’t trust other humans to look after us.

      So to them, being cruel is just how the world works. Their bosses were cruel to them. Their politicians ignored their needs. This is a natural consequence of such a culture.

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      They are. Those that say evil doesn’t exist are clearly naive. Good and evil are human constructs for dealing with human behavior. The idea that it comes from without is what evil humans do to hide theirs.

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        I think a lot of people say that evil doesn’t exist because evil is a fundamentally religious concept (or, at least, it is perceived by many to be so). Therefore, it’s not good versus evil in the real world; it’s good versus bad.

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          I disagree. Evil is a decision to engage in actions that deliberately hurt others.

          Bad can be a negligent action that causes unintended hurt.

          There are plenty of lousy parents out in the world. Men and women that are fuck ups and do bad things, but often it’s down to not knowing better. They’re not evil, just stupid or shortsighted and unaware of consequences.

          Evil people DO know better and act regardless. Evil people don’t care.

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    Usually it’s fairy tale trolls, witches, hags, and monsters that abduct children like this. Strange bunch to want to imitate.