Pike’s lawyers said she is back in same prison she’s lived in for last 30 years and will continue to receive medical care
Christa Pike has been discharged from the hospital after surviving Tennessee’s botched 30 September attempt to execute her by lethal injection and is back in prison, her lawyers said on Saturday.
Saturday’s update about Pike came 10 days after the death row prisoner was given two doses of pentobarbital, a lethal injection drug, in what proved to be a failed execution attempt. She was hospitalized after surviving the botched execution and was declared brain dead on Monday.
But in a shocking turnaround, on Thursday her lawyer said that she was “up and walking” – though she remained “somewhat foggy” and wasn’t able to use her arms very much.
Pike said that her arms were burning during the failed execution and asked if it was supposed to feel that way. Witnesses present in the chamber said that “nothing was normal” while officials have maintained that they followed every step of Tennessee’s approved execution protocol.
Doesn’t this reach the bar for cruel and unusual punishment?
Much of what I’ve read about the American prison system would qualify as cruel and unusual punishment. The same applies to the Canadian system more than I’d like to admit.
But it says cruel and unusual, not cruel or unusual. So, if it is a usual punishment, it can be as cruel as you want.
Checkmate civilized world 😎.
And honestly, if it isn’t cruel, will the average American consider it a punishment at all?
That would be the entire US prison system.
how can someone be declared brain dead and then wake up the next day with no mayor neurological damage?
were they trying to finish the job by disconnecting her from life support?It’s the US, how does someone who is brain dead still have their job on the senate?
Coasting on your accomplishments as a coach is one way.
That and being part of the Epstein Hellraiser cult.
were they trying to finish the job by disconnecting her from life support?
I’d imagine so, yes. Clean up the loose ends as it were. Trying, twice, to kill someone and having them still walking around is rather embarassing after all.
It’s the US. The only safe way to kill her is to send her into a child daycare or school and let the missiles do their job.
Probably the same docs who botched her execution declared her brain dead
The thing is that no doctors are involved in the executions. They take the Hippocratic Oath so they swear to not willingly do harm. The people doing these executions are usually prison staff that have no medical training.
They don’t need to take that oath anymore and haven’t for a long time.
However any medical people participating in executions would have their licences revoked.
There is also legal assisted suicide in Canada and parts of EU. I believe doctors are invilolved in that
I see an argument for that to be an act of compassion, not harm.
Yeah assisted suicide has specific requirements and is very much about compassion. Sort of similar to the way hospice care effectively denies medical intervention that could save someone’s life.
The Hippocratic oath also includes a promise not to perform surgery, and to leave that to surgeons:
I will not use the knife, not even, verily, on sufferers from stone, but I will give place to such as are craftsmen therein.
Gets broken every day.
That’s the original ancient oath. There are modernised versions. As of 2018, all US medical school graduates made some form of public oath but none used the original Hippocratic Oath. A modified form or an oath unique to that school is often used.
“docs” prison system almost never use actual licensed professionals. nurses/docs arnt going to risk thier licensed being revoked, or the bad reputation they would get,.
were they trying to finish the job by disconnecting her from life support?
That’s what I was thinking as well. You don’t just miraculously wake up within a day from no brain activity measured. Someone intentionally manipulated a measurement or just skipped it.
life imprisonment has a 100% success rate.
No one has ever survived.
That’s got to cost less for the taxpayers than the legal shitstorm that’s going to follow in the wake of this incident.
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Yeah but then you don’t get the blood thirsty pro-life conservatives who froth at the mouth to kill anyone not in utero frothing at the mouth waiting for others to die.
These are the same people who don’t want socialized healthcare, regardless on how much more cost effective it is at both a personal level and a government level.
Frank Morris, and John and Clarence Anglin would disagree. It’s so rare though, that your point stands.
Fucking barbarians
The US justice system is making me feel bad for a murderer. I’m not sure it’s what they’re trying to achieve, but it’s certainly an achievement.
I hardly care about her single murder when a girls’ school can be bombed and no one is held accountable. She was just barely an adult and all her time before that was a hellish childhood, there’s some understanding one could have for her, but the same nation can just murder little girls and no one is responsible. Let her go, kill the child killers and child rapers.
Pike said that her arms were burning during the failed execution and asked if it was supposed to feel that way.
That’s a sign of the injection going a wrong way, namely somewhere else than the vein where it probably was supposed to be. Idk if it happens with just any intravenous injections, but I got exactly that feeling when mine didn’t go into the vein.
IV medication can burn depending on the type and concentration. Propofol is notorious for a burning or stinging sensation.
You were executed via chemical injection?
You haven’t really lived until you’ve been executed by a high school dropout in a state prison.
“Once she’s healthy enough, we can execute her again!”
They’ll probably live stream it too
Imagine how weird it must be to see your prison friend finally get shipped off to death row, have a sad goodbye, prepare yourself for life without her, and then she just casually walks back into prison.
I was thinking how weird it must have been to receive a lethal injection, black out, and then wake up somewhere. That must have been real mind-blowing for a moment.
But they knew it wouldn’t work she knew it wouldn’t work… everyone knew and they still tried it
TWICE
The prison system is so rotten and corrupt to enrich the few and hurt many. The number of people in prison is deplorable and a sign that the system is rotten to have so many. We can see what helps people out of poverty and crimes and deaths of desperation, but do the opposite too often, so this is the result of that. Unhealthy systems produce unhealthy society and people. All this suffering to enrich industries related to prisons too, like all the concentration camps and supporting businesses in on the violent grift. This is the sickness of doubling down on unhealthy ways.
As much as I oppose capital punishment, if you guys have to do it, why not use something that’s a guaranteed kill? IDK, a super fast head crushing machine or something.
Because the chemical execution method isn’t to ensure the swift, painless death of the accused, it’s to soothe the psyche of the executioner
Pneumatic hammer on the back of a chair strait into the back of the skull.
Or monoxide, what happened to carbon monoxide?
Isn’t that like drowning/suffocating? I was thinking instant death, be humain if you must kill someone.
Monoxide is the one that is dangerous because it makes you sleepy and then you die in your sleep. Dioxide is the one that feels like suffocating (because it’s literally the same. Your lungs can no longer get rid of the CO2 in your body and that’s very painful to us).
Of all the proven ways to end a life quickly and (for all we know) relatively painless that is what you came up with? 😅
Witnesses present in the chamber said that “nothing was normal”
As opposed to non-botched, routine state execution matinees they go to every Thursday.
“Normal”?
Nothing about this is normal, even if the woman had died in the expected manner.
Normal doesn’t mean right, it just means the same as usual, and they didn’t even hit that.
Do the witnesses spend a lot of their free time watching people get executed enough to have a frame of reference?
Yeah. One of the witnesses was a journalist who has attended hundreds of executions.
30 years to kill her? Why do long?
Because due process and a good legal team on her side that tried everything there was to try.
If at any point she died and was brought back I foresee an interesting legal argument to her being set free.
The intent of the death penalty is clear. I don’t think we’re gonna see any of this tv show type court stuff.
I’ve heard this is why death sentences state “hanged by the neck until dead.” Someone survived a hanging at one point and successfully argued that their sentence had been carried out, so they could not be hanged again. I read about it years ago, I don’t remember details. All this is to say she might not be able to make that point. Either way, you’re right. It’s gonna be interesting.
But can you legally die and then be revived? Like say someone’s heart stopped for 30 seconds and then they came back to?
If I remember correctly a guy tried to argue this in court a couple years ago after having a heart attack in jail and the judge ruled that since he was in court arguing his case he was still alive and the life sentence was still in effect.
So, if a murderer survives we just let them go? That’s fucking stupid
Bullets are cheap, guillotine is cheap, hanging is cheap. I am pro death penalty. There are truly serious, vile, and wicked evil people in this world. Most of which the common person has no idea the atrocities people commit due to sheltering world views, news under reporting, evil doesn’t always get caught, insert reason here…
However. They absolutely should not have done it this way, it’s absolutely ridiculous. Lethal injection is not a good execution method. It costs so much money to execute someone, and for zero reason when other methods are cost effective and more efficient. Life in prison is a major cost year over year and should be used in limited circumstances. This lady has health reasons that were ill considered for the type of execution attempted. Overall just a terrible situation.
1-in-8 people sentenced to death are later exonerated. 4% of those executed were later proven innocent.
I cannot accept executing innocent people as moral, no matter how bad the guilty parties are.
I don’t think any particular crime should warrant the death penalty. But it should be considered for those with a clear pattern of serious violent criminal behaviour, where rehabilitation has been tried but unsuccessful. For example multiple assaults, rapes and/or murders over a certain period of time, with prison terms served in between the crimes, where there has been attempts at rehabilitation, but these have failed to correct the criminals violent behaviour.
The entire justice system is imperfect. I acknowledge that to a certain degree. Modern forensics has brought this much further than before. While I certainly don’t think everyone should be able to use the death penalty. I do not want to share the planet with people who commit atrocities against innocent. I entirely believe that some cases that are beyond probable should call for the death penalty. Let it be one of yours who get harmed, raped, unalived, tortured, or something horrible, I am not saying an average crime but some heinous. I bet you will change your mind. Depending on the case, inmates even kill child predators. We have so many molestors out on the streets just lookup a map of your local US area, its sickening. Repeat offenders at that. I don’t want these people sharing the same space as me. Period. Multiple convictions. Not one off cases.
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“The system is imperfect so there’s nothing we can do except accepting it 🤷”.
Get the fuck out of here. Most of the civilized world does not have death row and we can still deal with violent criminals.
The system being imperfect is a PERFECT reason to NOT have death row…
I am pro death penalty. There are truly serious, vile, and wicked evil people in this world.
And without realising it, you have exposed yourself as one of these people.
However, like them, you are not “vile and wicked evil”, you are broken. Some people are broken like that by biological defects, some by trauma, and some by slow development into a psychopath. Society needs to be protected from some of them, but we have no right to kill, because that would put us on the same level as you or the other psychopaths.
Not broken. Not a psychopath. Your telling me the videos of houthis, or insert your own videos online of people machete chopping up innocents, shooting, or otherwise murdering people and raising morale of their like kind doesn’t call for the death penalty. Insane. It happens across the globe and there is no repercussions for most. Sorry but I’ve seen the vile that happens from truly evil people. I don’t want to sit down to eat and worry that one of those people could walk in, sit beside me or cook my food. While this is one case. I do understand that cases are highly nuanced. None the less. Get them gone. Their ticket should be revoked. Crimes against humanity.
Sorry but I’ve seen the vile that happens from truly evil people.
Believing that “truly evil” is a thing is the very prominent symptom of people who are broken like that.
We as in humanity, have extemists or other peoples that chain innocent people in suicide cars and other such horrible crimes to hurt others and kill. People do this to kids, senior citizens, various places across the globe. Some of these people we entrust to care for our people. Our loved ones. Elderly, kids, hospitals, daily life situations. Sorry but those people are evil and I do not want to sit beside them and or have them cook my food. We are together as humanity, not for crimes against humanity.
